Can You Live For a Year Without Lying?

Duncan Campbell writes in the Guardian about one man’s attempt to live for a year without lying:

The philosopher Immanuel Kant believed that telling lies was always morally wrong. But is it possible to live without telling a single lie for a whole year? That is the task that Cathal Morrow has set himself and he will let us know next year if it is possible, when he has finished his book on the experiment, to be called The Complete Kant….

If you go to Morrow’s website, The Complete Kant, you can read the first chapter of his book, which is well worth reading.

Update (I was called away from the computer but now I’m back):

Morrow’s predicament echoes a deep concern of mine which I find threaded through some of my short stories. Namely: is it actually possible for human beings to not lie? We all know that lies can harm people, but we also know that telling the truth can harm people as well. So whilst some lies are clearly wrong, some lies are necessary. (“Yes, that cake was delicious, Auntie”). We can find ourselves compelled to lie, not for personal gain, but simply to keep people happy.

Stepping back from the world as a whole, and looking at the millions of human conversations that take place each day, does this therefore mean that a lot of human happiness is often founded on illusions?

Similarly, some of my short stories deal with the question, “Is it actually possible for human beings to tell the truth?” After all, what is the truth, anyway? I know what it is to lie – I can understand how through emotional need, the truth can be deliberately distorted; but I also know that language, despite best intentions, often fails to capture the truth of something, or a situation.

If I steel myself to tell the truth, and nothing but the truth, I feel a sensation similar to that of someone grappling after a balloon being blown around in a fog. Not because I’m an obsessive liar who doesn’t care about the truth, but simply because in some philosophical sense, truth as an objective entity, a fact outside human perception, cannot be reached by the subjectivity of human thought, or expressed in the subjectivity of human emotion and language.

For example, suppose I look out of the window now and I see a blue sky. And I want to convey what I’m seeing into a statement. I could type on this computer, “the sky is green”, which is clearly a lie.

However, if I want to tell the truth – to convey in language the fact of something outside of myself, without any distortions – then I can type, “the sky is blue”.

But look at what I’ve just written – can the phrase “the sky” hold the truth of what I’m seeing? Can it hold the size of it, the scale of it, the substance of it, the fact of it? And how can I convey an object separate from my emotional response to it? At best, it’s just a phrase, the sound of words that refer to something outside, but the phrase can never hold in itself the thing it refers to. So when I type, all I can do is use signposts, pointers to something.

And when you read the words, “the sky”, you may have an image of a sky in your head that is based on a memory of a sky you’ve seen in the past, or an imagined construct of what a sky is, and in that micro-second of human thought you may innocently assume it is the same sight as what I’m seeing, but it is not – different skies, different days.

In other words, when I say “the sky is blue”, do I mean I can see just a wide expanse of blue with no clouds whatsoever, or are there patches of clouds here and there in a wide expanse of blue, or is most of what I’m looking at an expanse of clouds with just tiny patches of blue sky poking inbetween? Similarly, when I say “is blue”, you could well imagine a shade of blue in your mind, but that is not the same shade as the shade I can see. Are we talking light blue, dark blue, – what particular shade of blue are we dealing with?

Now this may all seem pedantic, but in everyday life, a simple statement like “the sky is blue” will be met with a nod of recognition, and people will feel that they understand the topic in question and will move on to the next topic – yet when we stop to think about it, very little information has been conveyed. Instead, the receiver has unknowingly imagined, albeit in a small way, what exactly the speaker is trying to say.

So what I’m driving at is the uncomfortable feeling I have that there is almost something wrong with the fabric of reality, in that human beings are not meant to know the truth, or express it; either we express outright lies about things, if we want to deceive people, or, if we genuinely don’t want to deceive people and try to be honest, what we claim to be the truth is really only an approximation – half-truths and incomplete statements about things.

It’s as though the human condition is based in some strange fog, where we think we can know the truth, but we ultimately can’t because objective truth is something very hard to convey.

~ by Paul Badger on 6 October, 2008.

8 Responses to “Can You Live For a Year Without Lying?”

  1. I think the question should be expanded to what is lying? Is omission considered lying? Is being diplomatic (your hair looks fine) lying? Is embroidering lying (omg, this cell phone is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G)? I think that while you can live a while year without saying outright lies, I don’t know about the wisdom of not being tactful or diplomatic ;) Also, I do think that the medical field should be allowed to embroider a little to give patients hope – albeit not false hope.

    This is actually a very interesting question. I shall ponder on it some more :)

  2. Thanks for your comment. Yes, I think it’s a difficult minefield – if a human being is to care about the welfare of others, then he or she will be forced to lie at times in order to be tactful or diplomatic.

    And, as I’ve outlined in my updated post above, I wonder if it’s possible for human beings to tell the whole truth anyway…

  3. http://northwardho.blogspot.com/2008/10/british-prankster-plans-to-live-in-no.html

    this is a fake news story, see my expose here

    E.

  4. Tuesday, October 7, 3008

    British prankster Cathal Morrow plans to live in “no-lie” zone for a year. Rubbish! This is a complete non-story reported by an irresponsible Guardian

    Is it possible to live for a year without lying?

    – British man plans to try to find out, but is he telling the truth?

    by Emmanuelle KANT

    RONDON — Newspapers these days are full of unchecked and under-reported stories
    that later turn out to be not true. People call up a reporter and tell
    them they are going to do such and such, an incredible feat, and then
    the reporter duly writes the story up and it goes live on the Web for
    all the world to read, and then later, one never knows if the story
    panned out. About ten percent of what we read in the newspapers these
    days turns out to be fake news. Unchecked news. News that was never
    fact-checked.

    It’s easy to do. You hire a good PR agent, he or she plants the story
    in an unsuspecting newspaper in Britain or the USA, the blogosphere
    picks it up, and boom, a new world-historial hero artist is born. But
    these stories sometimes turn out not to be completely true. Well,
    maybe, at the beginning, the plan was a good one, but the execution of
    the idea sometimes lags way behind reality. However, we never read
    about these failed PR stories. We only get the positive spin at the
    beginning, the book deal, the possible movie deal, it all sounds so
    exciting and real. But was it? Is all of what we read in the
    newspapers true?

    Case in point. A newspaper in Britain, which shall go nameless for now
    – and the UK is famous for publishing fake news stories that later
    turn out to be completely untrue — although they make for good
    reading! — a newspaper in London is now reporting that a bloke in
    Spain, but a British bloke, “plans” to go a whole year without lying.
    A noble cause, a noble project. His name is Cathal Morrow. Google the
    news to read between the lines here.

    Mr Morrow, 42, married and with two small children to support, “says”
    he plans to write a book about his year-long experiment, and he has
    already thought of a title: “The Complete Kant.”

    Hint, hint: Immanuel Kant, the philospher. Or should that be Emanuelle Kant?

    - Hide quoted text -

    Of course, the
    newspaper does not tell us that Mr Morrow does not have a “publisher”
    yet for his “unwritten” book, but who cares about those small details.
    The news value of a hypeable story is paramount here.

    Long live the tabloidization of our news, with great asissts from the
    Internet. Right?

    “The philosopher Immanuel Kant believed that telling lies was always
    morally wrong. But is it possible to live without telling a single lie
    for a whole year?” asks the Guardian writer in his first paragraph.
    “That is the task that Cathal Morrow has set himself and he will let
    us know next year if it is possible, when he has finished his book on
    the experiment, to be called ‘The Complete Kant’.”

    Movie rights, anyone? Sell the idea to Hollywood, even if the feat is
    never actually carried out? Fifteen minutes of fame, multipled by all
    the extra hours one gets now from the Internet and the blogosphere?
    It’s a great story. But is it true?

    Morrow used to be the managing director of an IT recruitment company,
    but quit seven years ago to write a novel about a photocopier salesman
    who is perfecting a formula for finding his true self, Duncan
    Campbell, the news enabler writes in his tabloidy story, adding:
    “Despite appreciative initial responses, he never found a publisher
    [for the book].”

    So Mr Morrowe hits on the idea of a philosophical exploration of the
    notion of truth, we learn. Noble calling, yes. Unable once more to
    find a publisher, he has a novel idea: put a synopsis of the book on a
    European social networking site called ‘A Small World’, seek backers
    who will finance him for a year’s writing in exchange for half of the
    profits of the book, the Guardian reporter tells us. And then the
    kicker: “A private equity company responded and has now agreed to
    finance ‘Morrow] for a year.”

    However, we never learn the name of this so-called private equity
    company, and we never learn how much they will spot Mr Morrow in his
    “no-lie zone”, and we never never is this is the real deal or just
    another Internet fantasy idea that will never pan out? I’m not sure.
    I’m hedging my bets.

    Morrow does tell the reporter one important character trait that is
    worth watching here. “[It is]… the realisation of how much I lie to
    myself, and what a tenuous grasp I have of the notion of truth,”
    Morrow tells Campell, who duly writes it all down for posterity.

    Oh, and another kicker here: “Since his first chapter is now online,
    at thecompletekant.com, you can let him know how you think he’s doing
    so far.” See? The book already has a first chapter, literary agents
    can read it and bid for the publishing rights, movie agents can come
    calling, it’s all in the cards.

    But is any of this really true? Will Mr Morrow ever finish his book
    about “Kant”? Did he ever plan to write a book, or was this all a PR
    ploy to get some money from backers and potential publishers without
    lifting a finger?

    I predict, and I am often wrong, so don’t hang me for this, but I
    predict that Mr Morrow will never write that book, that he will not
    stay in the “no-lie zone” for a year, and that his propensity, as he
    himself admits, for having a tenuous grasp of the notion of truth and
    of lying to himself, of all people, will do him in. No lie.

    Follow this story for a year. Let’s see what “The Complete Kant” is all about.

    In his defense, Mr Morrow says on his blog:

    “The philosopher Immanuel Kant said that lying was always morally wrong.
    I am attempting to go a whole year without telling a single lie. But much more than that I’m looking for some kind of truth [INCOME?] to keep me going for the next 40 years or so, and to pass on to my kids. Karl Marx said – and I misquote – “Philosophy is bollocks because it doesn’t change anything.” I disagree. I think it may well be able to give me the direction I so desperately need.
    Well, that’s the plan anyway. As is to turn my journey into a (published) book. “

  5. Dear Emmanuelle,

    Thank you for the kind mail.

    It is very much a real project and a serious subject. I seems since the release that so many people have an issue with the simple truth, this shows the importance of the study and the subsequent book.

    I am the private equity fund and had you viewed my site from my email address you will see who we are. We fund many projects and this is one.

    Cathal was in contact with the guardian prior to the news release but fail to see the relevance of this no one is trying to hide anything, simply undertake an exercise in the truth.

    I am glad you find the topic of interest and look forward to your thoughts when you have read the book next year.

    Yours

    Edward Fitzpatrick
    Thaler.li

    Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

    Dear Mr Fitzpatrick,

    Yo, thanks for heads up and email. Yes, in fact, I do love what you
    and Cathal are doing, it’s a very good and useful educational
    experiment and I wish you both luck with it and I hope it succeeds.
    Really, despite my tone earlier, and even now, I remain deeply
    suspicious about how this
    “news item” made it into print in the prestigious non tabloidy paper
    like the Guardian, but maybe Duncan is a close friend from PR days
    with Catha. Most likely. I know how these things operate, and nothing
    happens over the transom, cold calling. This was a plant, and the
    truth will come out. And then somebody will have egg on their face,
    most likely ME…….hehe….I do make wrongheaded mistakes very
    often…..and I will humbly aplogize when proven wrong….but for now,
    I must keep the pressure on: all in fun, of course, I love this story,
    i just don’t like the way the Guardian wrote it ip, not disclosing
    your part in the story for example, not naming Thayer Fund and not
    saying how much you are gonna fund Catha. So mate, tell me, how much
    are you gonna fund him for a year? US$25,000? Have you written one
    check yet for him? I doubt it.

    This is all a PR ploy to get a book and movie and TV reality
    show…..How do I know? I am one of the best PR mavens in the world,
    and I have done my sharing of media shopping. In fact, if Catha had
    come to me with the idea, I could have done the PR for him just like
    you did. Pay the 80 dollars for the paid press release from
    PRNEWS.com, and use my friendship with Duncan to get the faux story in
    the press. When the truth comes out, about how you guys sort of fibbed
    your way into print with the story…..and great PR job by the
    way…..you will lose all credibility. Catha has none to lose, but you
    do. Maybe you disagree.

    I love this idea of a truth test for a year. But you are going about
    it the wrong way….the right way would be to have started it without
    the blog or press release, with little or no fanfare, and let six
    months go by by tesing it out first, and THEN there is a good news
    story…but you started the hype without even starting the project.
    ….that’s fake faux PR……and shame on you both.

    i do find the topic interesting, and I am a good sport, i have a life,
    i am not jealous, i am having the time of my life in my own life, but
    i smell a skunk here. I am waiting for Catha to reply to me, and
    Duncan. Duncan is the culprint here, not you or Catha. he is sloppy
    lazy journo taking a press release and reprinting almost verbatim. And
    now he goes on vacation for two weeks, how convenient…

    Check out my blog. I will be watching you guys, but all in the spirit
    of good fun, and I DO LIKE your project, yes….i just don’t like the
    way the Guardian reported it. This is a book movie project looking
    for a deal….masquerading as NEWS…….not news…..pure savvy
    PR….

    My guess is that Catha worked for you before in IT…right? that is
    what i heard online.

    Can you explain, Ed, how you know Catha in the first place amd he sent
    his chapter to you if he didn’t know you at all……I SMELL A RAT
    HERE

    smile

    just having fun

    and you are too….so cool!

    Please understand my intentions are good and healthy and not
    harmful…I just want the public to know the whole truth……..no
    lies

    hey, i like that phrase i coined…..”the no-lie zone” of Catha
    Morrow, like the no fly zone in Iraq…….

    Cheers, mate, and may all your tomorrows be sweet!

    – Emmanuelle Kant , not X rated…….just T-rated for Truth rated

  6. http://northwardho.blogspot.com/2008/10/british-prankster-plans-to-live-in-no.html

    my take on all this cant!

  7. Hi Emmanuelle,

    Thanks for your comments. However, I don’t think Cathal is a prankster, and I think the project is real.

    Anyway, time will tell.

    cheers

    Paul

  8. “But look at what I’ve just written – can the phrase “the sky” hold the truth of what I’m seeing? Can it hold the size of it, the scale of it, the substance of it, the fact of it?”

    Because you KNOW it is the sky. This is an indisputable FACT. Fact is defined as: “something that actually exists; reality; truth”

    This bloke is attempting to not tell a lie. This is obviously meant in the sense of a lie being “something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture”, hence your example about Auntie’s not so delicious cake.

    As humans it is impossible to convey in earnest that which we do not KNOW. Since the truth must be known by an individual in order to be misconstrued and represented by a lie, your statements about the sky aren’t relevant to this situation.

    Furthermore, if you haven’t seen this side of the picture, it’s entirely understandable as to why you have said what you’ve said.

    In the recent weeks i’ve come to terms that the multitude of people daily interactions are based on lies. In the sense of deliberate misrepresentations of facts (whether conscious or unconscious).

    Not wanting to march to the beat of that drum, (which ultimately leads to a life based on nothing but untruths and unhappiness) i’ve endeavored to find out some more on the subject. Hope you can take this comment as I intend it….to be informative. I apologize if you perceive a lack of courtesy…the portrayal of my ideas into words leaves something to be desired (back to the abstractions of words!)

    Best,
    Ryan

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